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Wellness + Wisdom with Josh Trent

The Wellness + Wisdom Podcast is a global collective dedicated to mastering physical and emotional intelligence for humans to thrive in our modern world.

In this podcast together we gather, apply and embody the wisdom needed for authentic well-being in the 21st century.

Each episode is artfully crafted to go an inch wide and a mile deep into the Pentagon of Wellness: Physical, Emotional, Mental, Spiritual & Financial.

Your host Josh Trent asks the questions no one else will ask to garner the truth about how to live a life of confidence, freedom, and optimal wellness—this is where together we walk the path of courage to cross the gap between knowing and doing.

Learn from world class leaders in the fields of physical intelligence, breathwork, emotional intelligence, behavior change, wellness, nutrition, behavioral psychology, habits, mindset, fitness, health, strength training, organic supplementation, biohacking, body transformation, psychedelics, mindfulness, meditation, neuroscience, mental health, spirituality, consciousness, the (7) pillars of wellness to live life well and (EI²)™ Emotional Intelligence + Inventory.

Aug 24, 2021

If you're not training yourself, the world is training you. When you do nothing and the world trains you with all of its negativity, fear, and, consumerism - how is that going for you? In comparison, when you take responsibility for training yourself physically, mentally, and emotionally so that you're making steady progress day in and day out, check in with yourself and see the difference. You're going to be a completely different person and we call that transformation. - Mark Divine


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Wellness Force Radio Episode 410

Commander as well as Founder of both SEALFIT and the Unbeatable Mind Academy, Mark Divine, returns to explore the concepts of the Kokoro Spirit, the Five Mountains of being a human being, how to overcome your core challenges by integrating practices from the Unbeatable Mind, and how to unlock positive neurodiversity.


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Listen To Episode 410 As Mark Divine Uncovers:


[1:30] Kokoro: Connecting the Mind, Body, and Spirit


[25:30] Bridging The Spiritual and Physical Worlds

  • What lessons and gifts Mark has received from the CV19 experience especially his relationship with his parents.
  • The Eastern belief that we choose our parents when we come into this world and why Mark openly takes full responsibility for his Spirit choosing his childhood experience.
  • Why there are many people in the military who thrive at controlling their emotions because they were traumatized as children.
  • The power of the Shamanic connection and how they can navigate the non-physical world when most of us are non-believers and disconnected.
  • Why Mark is grateful for Kirk and he has been one of his most profound teachers.
  • The science today on remote viewing or Extra Sensory Perception (ESP) and our connection to the spiritual world.


[33:00] The Five Mountains of the Unbeatable Mind & Positive Neurodiversity


[38:30] Overcoming Core Challenges With An Unbeatable Mind

  • 290 Dan Brulé
  • The gift of box breathing that Mark shared with Josh during his SEALFIT experience.
  • Core challenges men face before their Unbeatable Mind training.
  • Why the Five Mountains are not separate but we have been taught in society that they are distinct.
  • Mental discipline, focus, motivation, and desire men face with their Physical Mountain.
  • What bubbles up emotionally for men once they have a good footing on the Physical Mountain.
  • Why we first start with the physical training in order to help get the body get in balance.
  • The power of training the mental, physical, and emotional factors at the same time with a team.
  • Key differences and benefits of training with a team compared to on your own.
  • Why the individual way of being that we have been taught as Westerners in the USA is not beneficial and we need community.


[46:30] Transitioning From “Me” to “We” in Your Wellness Tribe

  • What ethnocentrism is and how it helps you put the needs of your team before your own plus why we are comfortable with this in a family setting but not others.
  • Why it’s vital to meet your needs first before those of your teammates as a way of cultivating emotional intelligence.
  • Unpacking the emotional baggage we carry in the subconscious mind.
  • What you should look for in your wellness tribe to help you transition into more of a “We” than an “I.”
  • Why team practices aren’t just part of the military, athletics, and families but also in business and work.
  • The best times to be an oak and strong vs a reed in the ocean and roll with the punches while still be able to stand back up.
  • Mark’s experience working with the most mentally tough men who were also able to tap into their emotions.
  • How Mark learned to open up and explore his emotions after so many years of shutting them down during his childhood.


[54:00] Clearing Up vs Opening Up Your Emotions

  • Ken Wilber
  • The differences between “clearing up” and “opening up” our emotions and energy.
  • What practices you can apply to your life to help you open up and heal your trauma.
  • How to root out negative thoughts and emotions that are holding you back.
  • Why so many people stop their emotional training once the trauma surfaces.
  • The fact that we are never done healing the mind and there’s always something to work on.
  • How to acknowledge and lean into the pain and suffering but don’t stop your physical training or rituals like breathwork and journaling.
  • What it means to live a life well lived by committing to your own evolution and doing the best that you can.


[1:01:30] Healing Generational Patterns & Bad Karma

  • Training the flow state to help you avoid monkey thoughts like, “I’m not good enough. I’m not smart enough.”
  • Exploring generational trauma origins and Mark’s belief that we are born with karma that we need to resolve during our lifetimes.
  • How you can resolve all of your past karma and generational trauma and patterns but it requires commitment to your training.
  • Why the emotional component of meditation was missing when it was brought to Western society.
  • How to begin removing the things, people, and obligations that are no longer serving you.
  • The fact that pain and suffering is part of the experience of our spiritual selves having a physical experience while alive.


[1:07:00] Building Consistent Wellness Practices

  • How physical training has become something that Mark loves to do and so it is a big part of his day-to-day life compared to what other people might do to also get the benefits of physical exercise.
  • Why the mental and emotional parts of being actually don’t take up a lot of time; you can take 20 minutes in the morning for breathing, meditation, and visualization each day.
  • The incredible benefits of doing a little bit of wellness practices every day instead of doing something like 5 hours of it straight on a Saturday.
  • People with Neurodiversity features may spend a lot of time trying to adjust to their work environment. They may need to manage their social impressions or find ways to block out distractions.


[1:11:30] Letting Go of Shame & Other Low Energy Vibrations

  • Letting Go by David R. Hawkins
  • Exploring the different levels of emotions and why the lowest vibration begins with shame.
  • Why shame is what is making the most money in marketing and is keeping people in jail mentally and spiritually.
  • How shame is driving the division we see in society as far as different political views and being a “good boy or good girl” with lockdown and face mask protocols.
  • Power vs. Force: The Hidden Determinants of Human Behavior by David R. Hawkins
  • The Eye of the I: From Which Nothing is Hidden by David R. Hawkins
  • How to tap into low vibrations such as shame with the tools of shadow work and deep mind-body work.
  • The fact that we have so much shame in our Western culture but there is a lot of positive aspects we should feel honored about as well such as courage.
  • What you can do to stop feeding the “wolf of fear” and begin feeding the “wolf of courage.”
  • The power acts of acceptance and forgiveness which are at some of the highest levels of vibration behind love.
  • Why change happens when we begin to focus on shifting our mindset and consciousness but only if we are spending our attention wisely.
  • How corporations and governments know how to keep the population in fear so that they can have control of them.
  • Neurodiversity refers to variation in the human brain regarding sociability, learning, attention, mood and other mental functions in a non-pathological sense


[1:15:00] Witnessing Society’s Positive Global Wellness Shift



Power Quotes From The Show

Positive Neurodiversity: Unlocking Your Perpetual Flow State


"Every day is a lifetime of learning, growth, and opportunity to evolve yourself and serve more powerfully. When that day is over, it's like a metaphorical death. You're done with that day but you could be done with your life so go be happy. The only way to know that you had a life well lived is to commit to your evolution and to do the best you can every day. The more nuanced you become with your practice, it becomes every minute and then every second. Then it becomes every moment to moment...

...You become so present and so aware that every thought and emotion that comes up, every experience you have, every interaction you have is an opportunity ask, 'How can I use this moment to evolve and serve?' so that it becomes part of your everyday awareness and perpetual flow state." - Mark Divine


The Five Mountains of Wellness


"Wellness is a journey, not a destination. It is easy for people to fall off of the path when they hit those major obstacles and this is when the other mountains, Spiritual and Intuitional, come into play with the Physical, Mental, and Emotional. Acknowledge what is blocking you, lean into it but don't stop your other training. Keep going to the gym, journaling, eating healthy, and doing your box breathing practice. If you fall off your rituals, just get back on and continue the work." - Mark Divine


The Training of Unbeatable Mind

"The training of Unbeatable Mind is really powerful because when we train ourselves physically, mentally, and emotionally, what we're doing is working to connect and integrate all those physical aspects of the mind: the brain-brain, the heart-brain, the belly-brain, and the body-brain. Then we're also working simultaneously to expand our perceptions so that we begin to experience the mind independent of the body as well. Those are the first 3 of the 5 Mountains." - Mark Divine


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About Mark Divine

Mark Divine | Positive Neurodiversity: Kokoro Spirit, The 5 Mountains For Inner Peace, & How To Fulfill Your PotentialMost people think mental toughness when they imagine a Navy SEAL.  What they don’t expect is the thoughtful, yoga-innovating, joking and laughing, professor of leadership named Mark Divine.

At twenty-six he graduated as Honor Man (#1-ranked trainee) of SEAL BUD/S class number 170. Mark served for nine years total on active duty and eleven as a Reserve SEAL, retiring as Commander in 2011.  His leadership of teams was so effective the government tasked him with creating a nationwide mentoring program for SEAL trainees.  Not only did it increase the quality of SEAL candidates, it reduced BUD/S attrition rate up to five percent.


A New Kind of Fitness Company

What made Mark’s program so effective was his focus on more than just physical fitness.  He’d seen laughter conquer fatigue and bond teams at their BUD/S breaking point, intuition save his men during the hell of war and special ops missions.  He knew he could form a fitness company that prepared civilians for the physical AND mental/emotional demands of  Navy SEAL-like lifestyle.  So he started SEALFIT.


Entrepreneur, Professor, and Unbeatable Mind

At the same time SEALFIT was beginning he co-founded Coronado Brewing Company, built, the leading website for SEAL gear and information, and launched US Tactical, a government contracting business.  He also served as adjunct professor of leadership at the University of San Diego before the Navy called him up for duty in the Iraq War.

Through Mark’s teaching, entrepreneurial endeavors and travel to foreign countries, he noticed the power of mental toughness, emotional resilience, intuitive leadership and a healthy spirit for anyone wanting breakthrough performance.  They weren’t solely for combat or restricted to the business world or one culture.  He’d watch them transform lives in people from every background, nation and belief system.  So he wrote and self-published his first book, Unbeatable Mind, in 2011 and launched its at-home study program.


More Writing and a Continuing Journey

Three more books poured out in a torrent…  The Way of the SEAL, published by Reader’s Digest, and 8 Weeks to SEALFIT and KOKORO Yoga, both published by St. Martin’s Press.  Writing his experience for others triggered a realization of his own full-circle journey…

Grown up in upstate New York, a degree in economics and an MBA from NYU.  He’d prepared for life as a high powered CPA… and then left his high paying finance career for the adventurous life of a Navy SEAL officer.  Now he’s once again sought after by those same corporations and institutions, as a trainer of the mental toughness and the whole person training that shaped, and healed him.

Mark lives with his family in Encinitas, California, where he continues to train, explore, learn from others and generate more resources to improve the lives of everyone he meets.



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