Sep 27, 2022
Ask yourself the right questions. Instead of asking yourself
this unanswerable question all the time, 'Why them and not me? Why
don't I have this? Why didn't I have this?' and using up all of
your energy on the idea that life is just unfair ask yourself this:
'Do I want to be a victim all my life and sit around feeling sorry
for myself?' Flip the switch and tell yourself, 'Okay, these were
the cards that I was dealt. What can I do?' Place yourself back in
the driver's seat and put that ball of empowerment back in your
court. Take that kind of mentality and just run with it. You can do
anything. - Liz Swail
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Wellness + Wisdom Episode 474
Entrepreneur, weightlifter, mom, wife, wellness expert and
Co-Founder of Holistic Wellness Center Alive and
Well, with her husband, Michael, Liz Swail explores the
meaning of life, shares how to break your negative mindset and
behavior cycles, why we should never rob someone of their healing
process, how shroom tea helped lead Liz to a life breakthrough
moment, and what is dividing families in America the most in
How can we unblock irrational fear to help us let go of past
By the end of this episode, you will have the tools to
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connections, and better understand your purpose in
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[1:30] Alive + Well in Austin,
- Liz Swail
- Alive + Well | Austin, Texas
- What we're going to explore on
today's podcast: true health and wellness from the inside
- About her business with her
husband, Alive + Well, what their mission is and how they're
helping people heal.
- What surprised Josh the most
about Alive + Well and some of their products and services he has
- 400 Cal
Callahan | The Great Unlearn: How To Find Your Purpose & Redefine
- How Liz and her husband, Mike,
as well as other colleagues, have been so welcoming and meaningful
to Josh and Carrie since moving from California to
- Liz's background, her childhood, how much as has grown over
the years and who she is at her core.
- Josh's own struggles growing up
as well with a mother who has bipolar disorder and his father
- The moment in high school as a
Junior when Liz considered ending her life.
[13:00] The Power of the
Question Prompt: What is The Meaning of Life?
- How Liz was able to transition
and leave her toxic environment behind for something
better for herself.
- Difficult moments for Liz even
before she was born with everything telling her mother to have an
abortion when she was pregnant with her at 13 years
- What comes up for Liz today with
all of the conversations surrounding pro-choice and
- Unpacking how so many people
have transcended to horrible living conditions to find joy, bring
love, and positively impact the world.
- The Map of Consciousness Explained
by David R. Hawkins
- Why a low level emotion like
despair has to be experienced in order to get to
- The moment in Liz's life when
she realized that having a title and money wasn't sucess for
- Why it's so beneficial to ask
yourself question prompts + why it's okay if you don't answer them
- 384 Shawn Stevenson | Eat Smarter: Use the
Power of Food to Reboot Your Metabolism, Upgrade Your Brain, and
Transform Your Life
- How deep contrast is so vital to
propel us to something better or some type of growth journey.
- The moment Josh realized that
having judgement about people with money and opportunities was
actually blocking him from achieving those things as
- Why many people who do come from
money don't always have a success story because they lack awareness and
[21:00] Breaking Your Negative
Mindset + Behavior Cycles
- How to get out of victim mode by asking yourself
these questions according to Liz.
- Liz's personal mission to help
break negative cycles such as mistrust, addiction, and poor health with
- What Liz's childhood and
observing her grandparents taught her about emotional intelligence and
- How Liz felt lost during
university, her skill sets, and what she should do with her
- How people can change their
lives around when they're born into difficult environments without
- Why it's so easy to blame
caregivers and the people around
you for your childhood environment but it's actully disempower and
not the right energy to use to help you forward.
- The fact that less than 1% of
all disease is based on your genetics and that means you have
tremendous power over your outcome.
- Why our sickcare system isn't
giving people the actual help that people need.
- 140 Unconventional Medicine – Chris
[30:00] Never Rob Someone of
- Different wellness services they
offer at Alive + Well to help people on their health journeys from
functional medicine to vitamin
shots to relaxing spa packages.
- Alive + Well's mission to help
people find and heal themselves if and when they are feeling
- 277 How To Access Your Inner Coach: Christine
- Why it's so important to never
rob someone of their process and you cannot force them to heal;
they have to do it on their own terms and when they're ready for
- What therapies can help someone
get their emotional energies unstuck and back into
- Her father's experience being a
drug addict, his recovery
process, and her amazement at the life he's living today after
being addicted for over 4 decades.
- Why no one is unhelpable; we can
always heal and get better by setting goals, sticking to a path,
and keep doing the inner work.
- Josh's own struggle with food
and why control is a coping mechanism for many people.
- Why Alive + Well is not like
other places; especially when it comes to individual attention and
treating you like a person rather than a number.
- What Alive + Well is doing to
always focus on growing and helping people thrive with new healing methods.
- How to make wellness like a fun
hobby: something that you enjoy and can geek out on so that you're
actually enjoying the journey.
[38:00] How Shroom Tea Helped
- Her experience trying shroom tea for the first time
while living in the Caribbean and how that helped her have a
personal epiphany and boost her confidence.
- 462 Ben Greenfield: Should You STOP
Using Plant Medicines? Wisdom on Microdosing, The Muscle of Faith +
How to Grow Your Spiritual Strength
- Her past practice of building
another life in her mind to get away from coping with her reality
at the time and sharing these made-up stories with other people
until the shroom tea helped her realize that she didn't need to do
- Josh's recent experience
connecting with his grandfather with a similar tea during a
men's group event.
- How to be careful about plant
medicine and why there's a right and a wrong way to do
- Why the pre, post, and peri
inner work process is vital to integrate a plant medicine's
- The importance of not doing
ceremony after a ceremony to do the real work for
- Why you have to be so careful
about who you attend a plant medicine ceremony with at any
- Her thoughts about how Ayahuasca might help her father
but the caution he should take when choosing where and which shaman
facilities the experience.
[46:45] The Healing Spiral:
Contraction & Expansion
- 333 Dr. Kelly Brogan | The Spiral
Path: How To Own & Love Your Self
- Why healing is a spiral and
sometimes you will experience contraction or expansion in the
- Unpacking Liz's recent move to
Dallas with her family and the current healing spiral she is facing
- Her childhood habit of detaching
herself from a current situation and how that is showing up now for
- Why she thinks it's very
important to cultivate discipline in life because it will show up
for you all of the time once it's a habit compared to motivation.
- What Liz does to manage her
dark thoughts and why it's so
important not to judge yourself for having those thoughts but just
let them pass through you, acknowledge that they're there but not
forever, and important questions to ask yourself.
- How developing good habits when
you're healthy and in a good mindset will help carry you when
you're not in that space of wellness.
- 423 Ryan Duey | Ice Baths: Cold Therapy For Weight
Loss, Immunity, Metabolism & Mental/Emotional
- Why doing the cold plunge helps
Liz so much when she is in a fight or flight mode.
- How Dallas compares to Austin
and how she's slowly warming up to their new city.
- Why just simply being honest and
open about personal struggles in a safe
environment is so powerful for healing oneself.
[56:00] Why Outside Control
Starts with Dividing Families
- Gender dysphoria that our
society is facing today; especially through platforms like YouTube
and TikTok and the dominos that are being stacked against our
- 453 Sky King | How To Exit The
Matrix: The Psychology of Propaganda & Marketing
- How to find your purpose and how
you can make an impact with all of the negative mass media
headlines we see day after day.
- What Liz does to show up as the
best version of herself that she can be for her children in order
to protect and support them.
- Why our children serve a
purpose of reminding us what
life is all about in the end.
- How and why we have moved away
from the importance of family because of our current society and
- Common roots of important pieces
of history including communism and the Holocaust that all started
with dividing families.
- Why Liz believes that we all
have holes in our hearts right now that we need to fill ourselves
with the love and light of spirituality, a Higher Power, or
God - whatever you believe in to feel whole and help one stay
- How removing God or Higher Power
and spiritual beliefs plus feeding people junk food along and
keeping them sick while also dividing families also leads to people
being easily controlled according to Liz.
[1:05:00] Building Powerful
Connection Within Ourselves and with Our Partner
- How gender dysphoria and
confusing children's psyche as young as four years old is priming
them for the brokenness that will need to be healed as adults yet
some never truly heal.
- The detachment Liz faced when she
was touched inappropriately by men when she was a
- How the pursuit of sole pleasure
and no connection can break down one's humanity.
- 379 Drew Manning | How To Be Fit
After 40: Why Drew Gained 75 Pounds on Purpose
- Josh and fellow podcasters who
have been addicted to porn for so long plus their journey being
open about it.
- The intense experience Josh had
with an Ayahuasca ceremony that did not go well and he ended up
absorbing a dark entity that led to a
- Paul Chek | All is God
- How Josh consciously chooses to
be with Carrie and their son rather than allow thoughts about porn
take over his control.
[1:12:30] The Evolving Wellness
Journey + Cultivating Purpose
- Struggles Liz still faces today
and that she is open about sharing with the world.
- How Liz has learned to love herself and the gifts that
she does have instead of comparing herself to other
- What they do at Alive + Well to
help people get well enough that they can step into their purpose
and fully express themselves.
- The different layers of Liz, the
time it took to get her health to where it is today, and why
wellness is a never-ending
journey for all of us.
- The fact that you can go in on
something with a goal but you cannot be attached to the outcome and
Liz explains why that is true.
- Why she believes it's so
important to believe in some sort of power and embrace how incredible
it is that we are a moment but there is something
[1:17:45] Unblocking Irrational
Fear to Let Go of Trauma
- Her relationship with fear as she moves through the
things that she is responsible for every day.
- How her husband, Michael, has
helped her alleviate the fears she never thought she would get rid
of like not being supported.
- Questions she asks herself
to help her unpack her fears in order to heal and move past
- How doing a holotropic breathwork experience
helped her do some intense inner child work.
- Why a lot of our angry emotions
and behaviors come forward because of the fear we had as
- The importance of uncovering
your biggest irrational fears in order to finally not allow it to
hijack your thinking and let unresloved trauma
- How she defines wellness and
what living a life well looks like to her especially after her
mother passed away.
Power Quotes From The
Embracing the Whole Journey:
Good Times + Bad Times
"A society, we're in this pursuit
of zero discomfort and instant gratification but without that
contrast and journey we can't show up in an authentic way for other
people. We can't show up in a powerful way for other people. If we
can change that and allow ourselves to feel both the good and the
bad, the comfort and discomfort so that we can be
empowered." - Liz Swail
How to Control + Heal Fearful
"When you're fearful of
something, you can't think of anything else. It's that inner
questioning of 'What's going to happen if...?' and your brain is
constantly spinning and spending energy on it. It's a waste because
then you can't think of anything else like creating something
bigger and better. So, recognize that fear when you feel it, don't
be upset about it, and ask yourself why you're feeling afraid."
- Liz Swail
Get Closer to Your Inner Child
"What inner child ideas are
coming up when you are afraid, angry, or anxious? Personally, I
never understood or did inner child work until I tried holotropic
breathing. I sobbed like I never did before and I could see myself
at 5 and 7 being hurt by other people. That helped me to say to my
inner child, 'I'm so sorry that happened to you little Liz,' and
recognize how some fear had manifested in me from a very young age.
When you act a certain way like snapping at your spouse it is
almost always related to a fear." - Liz
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About Liz Swail
entrepreneur, weightlifter, mom, wife, and wellness expert based in
Austin, where her and her husband Michael run their Holistic Wellness Center Alive and Well
Liz had a complicated journey into the health and wellness
space, as growing up she experienced a turbulent home life,
disordered eating, suicidal thoughts, and poverty.
Childhood: comparing the “then” and “now” of her life, touching
on how she transformed her own health by making changes over
The benefits of giving up gluten and alcohol, and the long-term
benefits that you’ll see if you invest time and effort into your
Liz balanced her strength training around her two pregnancies,
and she managed to keep training right up until giving birth.
Liz says that her Christian faith plays in her life and
encourages listeners to find a higher power so that they’re not the
center of their own universe.