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Wellness + Wisdom with Josh Trent

The Wellness + Wisdom Podcast is a global collective dedicated to mastering physical and emotional intelligence for humans to thrive in our modern world.

In this podcast together we gather, apply and embody the wisdom needed for authentic well-being in the 21st century.

Each episode is artfully crafted to go an inch wide and a mile deep into the Pentagon of Wellness: Physical, Emotional, Mental, Spiritual & Financial.

Your host Josh Trent asks the questions no one else will ask to garner the truth about how to live a life of confidence, freedom, and optimal wellness—this is where together we walk the path of courage to cross the gap between knowing and doing.

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Oct 12, 2021

Never waste a trigger. Often we get triggered and we resist and shut down but those are actually wonderful opportunities to face whatever that thing is and to start really unpacking, feeling, and discovering where they came from within. If they're not needed anymore, thank them and let them go. - Katie Wells

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Wellness Force Radio Episode 417

Founder of Wellness Mama and Wellnesse as well as Author of both The Wellness Mama Cookbook and The Wellness Mama 5-Step Lifestyle Detox, Katie Wells, shares her own wellness journey of healing trauma, practical tools for greater self-love, what we can learn from our triggers, and how to move stuck energy.

Who are you at your essence without the trauma that keeps you stuck? 

Discover why there is power in being able to safely talk about your trauma so that the light can grow.


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Listen To Episode 417 As Katie Wells Uncovers:

[1:30] Science: The New God?

[15:00] Letting Go of Trauma to Lose 50 Pounds

[23:30] Don't Ignore Your Triggers

  • How Katie was able to integrate emotional intelligence and spirituality during her healing journey and what that experience was like for her.
  • Why fear, guilt, and shame are the top factors that are keeping us back from making real progress and change in our lives.
  • How Wellness Mama has grown over time and why it took Katie a while to be comfortable enough with being vulnerable with her audience.
  • Why there is so much power in vulnerability and how that can let us feel freer.
  • The domino effect of sharing our own stories to help people feel comfortable with sharing theirs.
  • Why we are so afraid to share our traumatic experiences with others because we think that we will be seen as broken.
  • Katie's experience learning from the pain teacher.
  • Why we shouldn't ignore our triggers as they help us grow as we heal.
  • The Untethered Soul: The Journey Beyond Yourself by Michael A. Singer
  • How breathwork can help us unlock the negative energy and pain we are holding within.
  • Why Katie physically could not raise her voice to yell or speak up after her trauma.
  • How rage therapy and voice lessons helped Katie find her voice again.
  • The fact that the vibration of the vocal cords is actually stimulating to the thyroid and why she believes that lined up with her own thyroid issues and recovery process.
  • 408 Dr. Michael Ruscio

[31:30] Exploring the Energy Patterns in Your Body

  • Why it can be hard for people to think about us having "stuck energy" or the need to "move energy."
  • Breaking down what energy in the body is and how we can see it from both a spiritual and scientific edge.
  • The Body Electric: Electromagnetism And The Foundation Of Life by Robert Becker and Gary Selden
  • Why being more open and curious about each other's experiences, beliefs, and opinions will make us so much closer as a society.
  • Josh's own weight loss and wellness journey over the years.
  • Why she would never choose to experience it again but Katie is grateful for her sexual trauma because she wouldn't be the woman or mother that she is today without that healing journey.
  • Exploring the different frequency scales and walking through those phases from the very bottom at shame and apathy until you reach acceptance and enlightenment at the top.
  • The evolution of emotional intelligence that Katie went through after being raped and why it took a long time to heal that capital "T' trauma.
  • Why there is power in being able to safely talk about your trauma so that the light can grow.
  • 410 Mark Divine

[42:30] Path of the Wounded Healer

  • The path of the wounded healer that both Katie, Josh, and many other wellness leaders have been on in their lives.
  • Core childhood wounds and questions that everyone has in some form like "am I loveable?" or "am I worthy?"
  • How we can shift and have compassion for other people when they treat us in a certain way.
  • What steps you can do to start experiencing wounds and struggles that we've carried with us since childhood.
  • Why struggle is a natural part of being a human and we should explore it rather than automatically label it as bad.
  • 366 Mark Wolynn
  • It Didn't Start with You: How Inherited Family Trauma Shapes Who We Are and How to End the Cycle by Mark Wolynn
  • Why our behavior, thoughts, and emotions might not even be our own but our parents' or another relative.
  • The 3-5 second rapid pause and evaluation for parents when their child is upset or misbehaving to help them be present and respond that best way they can.
  • How to better appreciate and value time and stillness especially if you are a busy parent.

[53:00] Who Are You At Your Essence?

  • How her mission has shifted from wanting to pass on the information and give answers to teaching people how to ask questions.
  • What Katie is doing to help people explore who they are by providing them with questions that they can ask themselves.
  • Free practical tools that she uses on a daily process that you can add to your toolbox to help you integrate and live a life of true wellness.
  • Powerful words you can say to yourself when you are struggling with something that will continue to help you down the road.
  • What wellness means to her today compared to when she first launched Wellness Mama.

Power Quotes From The Show

Questions To Guide Your Healing

"The key is to start asking better questions internally because what we ask internally our subconscious answers. So, when I was asking questions like, 'Why can't I lose weight? Why is this so hard?', my subconscious was telling me, 'Oh it's because you've had 6 kids and you have thyroid problems,' which didn't help me move forward. Then when I started asking better questions like, 'How can I be at peace within myself? How can I love myself and my children more? How is it so easy and fun to move toward a state of better health?', then my subconscious started giving me those answers." - Katie Wells

Loving The Wounded Inner Child

"We all have these core childhood wounds and questions in some form. They might be questions like, 'Am I lovable? Am I worthy?', or this core belief of 'I'm not good enough.' But when we can shift to see other people and ourselves as a hurt child who wasn't taken care of and wasn't loved in the way they should have been loved, it's much easier to show them love and compassion over anger and resentment." - Katie Wells

Uncovering The Origins Of Emotional Pain

"Start stepping back and asking yourself, 'Who is experiencing this emotion? Who is experiencing this pain?', and also start differentiating because in childhood we develop this idea that any kind of pain or struggle or hardship is bad and we start categorizing emotions and that relationship continues on into adulthood. We put emotions in boxes as good or bad but there inevitably will be struggle as part of the human condition...

...We're unlikely to get through life without some version of that but the better question is, 'Should we even if we could?' - Is that not part of the teaching of living this life? If we can step back and reframe and not go, 'Oh! Pain equals bad', but ask the better questions about where and what this pain is and who is this deeper version within ourselves that is experiencing that pain, then we have a different perspective to start to work through that." - Katie Wells

Links From Today's Show 

309: How I Overcame Trauma (and Lost 50 Pounds)

About Katie Wells

Katie Wells | Healing Trauma, Wellness Mama: The Road To Self Love & Letting GoKatie Wells, CTNC, MCHC, Founder of Wellness Mama and Wellnesse, has a background in research, journalism, and nutrition. As a wife and mom of six, she turned to research and took health into her own hands to find answers to her health problems. is the culmination of her thousands of hours of research and all posts are medically reviewed and verified by the Wellness Mama research team. Katie is also the author of the bestselling books The Wellness Mama Cookbook and The Wellness Mama 5-Step Lifestyle Detox.