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Wellness + Wisdom with Josh Trent


The Wellness + Wisdom Podcast is a global collective dedicated to mastering physical and emotional intelligence for humans to thrive in our modern world.

In this podcast together we gather, apply and embody the wisdom needed for authentic well-being in the 21st century.

Each episode is artfully crafted to go an inch wide and a mile deep into the Pentagon of Wellness: Physical, Emotional, Mental, Spiritual & Financial.

Your host Josh Trent asks the questions no one else will ask to garner the truth about how to live a life of confidence, freedom, and optimal wellness—this is where together we walk the path of courage to cross the gap between knowing and doing.

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Mar 19, 2024

Wellness + Wisdom | Episode 622

What does it take to become a fully integrated person?

Scott Jackson | Mandorla Integral Wisdom: Psycho-Spiritual-Emotional Ascension To THRIVE In ModernityScott Jackson, joins Josh Trent on the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 622, to share about his journey of healing the feminine wound, how he has embodied integral wisdom, what he learned from meditating on death, and why we all need to choose outrageous love to create a change in the world.

"You could wake up spiritually, but still be highly underdeveloped emotionally and psychologically. If you're just focused on spirituality as your path for development, then you're missing a huge part of who you are that must be developed. The thing that you're working towards is already ever-present right now and always has been. That which you want to become is already who you are." - Scott Jackson

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In This Episode, Scott Jackson Uncovers:

[01:30] Seeking Mentorship

[05:50] The Paradox of Time

  • There are many paradoxes in the process of awakening.
  • Everything happens in the now.
  • Why people have a fear-based relationship with time.
  • Relationships and money get us caught up in the realm of time.
  • How you can use the concept of time with intentionality.
  • Why emotional attachment is causing us suffering.

[11:25] Spiritual Journey

  • Becoming sober was the beginning of Scott's personal development and spiritual journey.
  • Why he said 'yes' to everything.
  • What led him to finally find God.
  • How he began to experience the connection with God.

[15:50] Self-Development + Integration

  • What it truly means to be integrated.
  • Why it took Scott a long time to understand integration.
  • We can be highly spiritually developed but not have emotional intelligence.
  • Why self-actualization wasn't accessible to past generations.
  • There are many parts of us that need to develop outside of spirituality.
  • Understanding what your motivation is to grow.

[23:00] Inspiring Others to Love

  • How can more people be inspired to want to grow.
  • Moving from dual to non-dual reality.
  • The illusion of the separate self.
  • Why we forget that we are love and that we are not separate.
  • It's easier to be in silence than interacting with people.
  • Life happens in relationships.

[30:25] The Path of Suffering

[34:15] Unconscious Incompetence

  • Unconscious incompetence: we don't know what we don't know.
  • It's our responsibility to contribute to the evolution of consciousness.
  • Why we need to create more connection and share inspiration with others.
  • Scott's dharma is to contribute to bringing people to love.
  • We experience suffering because our reality is distorted.

[41:45] Integral Wisdom

  • Scott's initiation into the spiritual world.
  • Why his father's passing was a catalyst experience.
  • Integrating spiritual, emotional, and psychological wisdom.
  • Why healing is a spiral and why our struggles return even though we thought we healed.
  • The craftiness of the ego shames our healing process.
  • Healing takes place when space is held for us.

[50:50] How to Become Integrated

  • Why Scott doesn't think he's fully integrated.
  • A Brief History of Everything by Ken Wilber
  • How we can develop our emotional, mental, and spiritual body to become integrated in our thinking and behaviors.
  • Why integral healing is what will truly change the world.
  • Understanding the needs of others facilitates conversations where needs are met.
  • An integral thinker has the ability to connect different perspectives.

[57:30] Choose Outrageous Love

  • How Josh reacts to hateful messages.
  • Why the answer to outrageous rage is outrageous love.
  • The ways Scott catches his unconscious behavior.
  • Outrageous love can be doing the opposite of what you normally do.
  • Dr. Marc Gafni
  • If all reality is love, then all of reality is a love story.
  • Dysfunction in relationships is based on disagreement on different values.
  • Love can be expressed at any level of our development.

[01:07:10] Healing The Feminine Wound

  • Why Scott pursued a path to know God.
  • How he's cultivating his relationship with Goddess.
  • His dad's passing created space to heal the wounded feminine.
  • Scott didn't think about the feminine wounding because he was putting all of his energy into healing the masculine.
  • How Scott's mom evoked many emotions in him which started a process of healing the feminine.

[01:20:30] The Mind + Body Connection

  • Being wounded is okay and not something we should shame ourselves about.
  • How somatic awareness allows us to feel different emotions.
  • Most people are identified with their thinking mind but are disconnected from what's happening in their body.
  • Why Scott intentionally connects through his heart with others.
  • Learning to trust ourselves and our intuition.

[01:28:50] Healing The Inner Child

[01:42:40] Pluralistic Relativism

  • Why people resist self-growth.
  • How pluralistic relativism shows up in our thinking.
  • Doing something for the sake of doing it is a pluralistic level of thinking.
  • How group environments create more separation.
  • Why all consciousness is not of the same value.
  • The Theory Of Everything by Stephen Hawking
  • Wholearchy integrates all levels of consciousness into a system.

[01:51:30] The Purpose of Self-Development

  • Self-development can move us from an egocentric perspective to caring about the world.
  • Increased awareness also changes our behaviors.
  • How our desire to do good enables us to be pure and receive teachings.
  • The difference between desire and craving.

[02:01:35] The Whole Self

  • The importance of developing the whole self.
  • How NLP (neurolinguistic programming) helped Scott grow, solve problems, and think critically.
  • Using language to create healing instead of creating wounds.
  • Why NLP has a disconnect from spirituality.
  • The whole self is a unique expression of who we are.

[02:08:35] Remember Who You Are

  • Life is an experience of remembering who we are.
  • Solving the karma of this life and the previous ones.
  • We're trying to become someone who we already are.
  • Talking about problems is not going to solve them.
  • The more flexibility we have in our thinking, the more we can work with people with different values and beliefs.
  • A New Pair of Glasses by Chuck Chamberlain
  • The solution to conscious separation is conscious unity.

[02:22:00] Feminine + Masculine Archetypes

  • How the pandemic allowed some people to raise their consciousness.
  • Daniel Schmachtenberger
  • Why we need to understand the feminine and masculine archetypes to be able to fully develop.
  • How a man can provide feminine holding for another person.
  • Using discernment in our lives.

[02:21:30] Fear of Loss

  • Why Scott's cancer is a journey of healing the feminine.
  • How cancer brought him an existential crisis.
  • Why he was worried about not fulfilling his dharma in this life.
  • Exploring death and what it means to die.
  • How to let go of attachment.

[02:35:55] Love + Cosmocentric Vision

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Power Quotes From The Show

Reality Is a Love Story

"We can choose to outrageously love at any moment. If all of reality is love, then all of reality is a love story. We've gotta get humanity to share and agree upon love being the value, that is most important to us all, that is the reality." - Scott Jackson

Death Doesn't Exist

"I meditated in what it was to die, what it was to leave this life, leave this body, leave this storyline. And what happened was it all dissolved. There is no death. If I die next week or in 30 years, it's of no consequence. My job is to do what is present now, to be love now, to contribute now, not to worry. Who cares about what time there is left? It's of no consequence. And with no attachment, I'm free." - Scott Jackson

Pluralistic Flatland

"In pluralistic flatland, all hierarchies get flattened. Because in that type of thinking, what happens is one says that all consciousness is of the same value, that there's no hierarchy, and al hierarchy is oppressive. Therefore, no one can be at a different level than anyone else. This is tragic thinking." - Scott Jackson


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About Scott Jackson

scott jackson mandorla integral wisdomScott is the Founder and CEO of NLP Freedom and a Master Coach who is highly effective at working with executives and companies to overcome obstacles to personal and organizational success.

He specializes in High-Performance Coaching, Corporate Values Alignments, and designing and delivering custom training and coaching programs based on your company's needs.

He is excellent at assisting managers in hiring the right people for the right positions. Scott's committed to creating Conscious Companies and increasing your company's profitability, and effectiveness, and accomplishing your organization's goals rapidly.


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